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     Omegle's Cat: A Two Hour Long Conversation in Spy Mode

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    PostSubject: Omegle's Cat: A Two Hour Long Conversation in Spy Mode   Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:26 pm

    I decided to post a question for the purpose of baiting, but what I got was a surprise and a two hour long conversation on Omegle. These two gentlemen muse on about my inane questions for about two hours until they realized that they came to an answer. I bring to you the problem that they dubbed, in complete, unedited, and unabridged form: Omegle's Cat. Enjoy:


    You're now watching two strangers discuss your question!

    Question to discuss: Do you ever feel bad cutting off Stranger 2, Stranger 1? What if Stranger 2 has a very interesting tale to tell and you just cut him or her off by disconnecting? How rude, Stranger 1!

    Stranger 2: i wonder which stranger i am

    Stranger 1
    : as do i

    Stranger 1: this is something of a conundrum as I am unsure of being stranger 1 or 2

    Stranger 2
    : does the colour code make any difference at all?

    Stranger 1
    : you are always blue and the stranger is always red

    Stranger 2
    : hmmm

    Stranger 2
    : that makes it even more vague

    Stranger 2: waw

    Stranger 2: the only person that knows it the SPY

    Stranger 1: yes therefore this question is at an impasse

    Stranger 1: i hereby request an adjournment

    Stranger 2: but the SPY will never be able to tell us

    Stranger 2
    : this conversation is in a way a paradox

    Stranger 1: not a paradox as there is a solution

    Stranger 1: but not one that we are aware of

    Stranger 2: pray tell

    Stranger 1: clearly the asker knows who between us is stranger 1 or stranger 2

    Stranger 2: by now i have more questions than answers

    Stranger 1: however we do not have the ability to divine that information from what we have available

    Stranger 1
    : as the only constant that either of us are aware of is that we are identified as you and stranger

    Stranger 2: hmmm

    Stranger 2: unless one of us can hack

    Stranger 1: well that would break the game

    Stranger 2: well that takes away the solution

    Stranger 1: cheating to find the answer is not finding the answer at all i think

    Stranger 2
    : u made an interesting point eariler

    Stranger 2
    : "there is a solution, but one one that we are aware of"

    Stranger 2: does that apply to EVERY problem to the world?

    Stranger 1
    : it likely could

    Stranger 2
    : like for example an ethical dilema

    Stranger 1: an ethical dillema imho is going to vary by point of view

    Stranger 2: there's always a 3rd choice that we dont know of yet?

    Stranger 1: which is the heart of the matter here, we lack the point of view to be able to tell if i am stranger 1 or you are stranger 1

    Stranger 1: but someone else outside the discussion has perfect clarity on that matter

    Stranger 2: but we are limited by the system to understand that truth

    Stranger 1: how true

    Stranger 2: so logically speaking, to reach the truth, one must rid the system

    Stranger 2
    : so hacking wouldn't be cheating, it would be a solution

    Stranger 1: or change the system entirely

    Stranger 2: a part of a solution

    Stranger 1: even though outside the system you could be stranger 2, what if i decided that you were in fact stranger 1?

    Stranger 2: or one of many solutions

    Stranger 2: how about gambling and risk>

    Stranger 2: a game of chance

    Stranger 1: well from a gambling stand point you would know the odds from the start

    Stranger 2
    : 50/50

    Stranger 1
    : yes

    Stranger 1: i could be right or wrong with an equal chance of either by saying that you were stranger 1

    Stranger 1: the logical fallacy being that i would not know the result of my wager

    Stranger 2: let's say I gamble to be stranger 2 and took the initiative to disconnect, I would'nt be antagonised, and it wouldn't be your fault in the eyes of the spy

    Stranger 2: i see, knowledge is power

    Stranger 2: ignorance is bliss

    Stranger 1: if i were to be stranger 1 according to the question i think at this point it would be far past a point by which you would have been cut off

    Stranger 2: if one of us do disconnect, would you force yourself into the mindset that you were the other stranger to enable peace in your mind, in other word comfortable?

    Stranger 1
    : it would be irrelevant to me as the only variables known are you and stanger

    Stranger 2: lol i think we may have discovered an omgele equivalent to Schrödinger's cat

    Stranger 1: having a different point of view on things would change the perspective by which i evaluated the situationi

    Stranger 1: interesting, that may well be true

    Stranger 2: i am saving this for analysis, and conversation topics

    Stranger 1
    : it seems our paths did cross again under more favorable circumstances to discuss something then

    Stranger 2: well done SPY, you have created a meaningful topic on omegle

    Stranger 1: i personally have no problem with you saving this conversation

    Stranger 1: shame i will only be known to the outside world as either stranger, stranger 1 or stranger 2

    Stranger 1: however another interesting solution may have been presented

    Stranger 1: if this transcript were to be saved, then whose perspective would it have?

    Stranger 2: unless SPY saves it too

    Stranger 1: if it were seen from the original eyes of the spy then it would be known to us after the fact which one of us were in fact stranger 1 and stranger 2

    Stranger 2: which we can only hope

    Stranger 2: unless we give each other a title

    Stranger 2: i may have found a solution

    Stranger 2: but it relies on trust

    Stranger 2: and hope

    Stranger 2: if we give each other a title

    Stranger 2: or say our names

    Stranger 2: and each save the transcript

    Stranger 2: as do the SPY if still around

    Stranger 1: that would work only if the spy saved the transcript

    Stranger 2: and post it on a certain location

    Stranger 1: as likely ours would be only you and stranger still

    Stranger 2: but not for the SPY's transcript

    Stranger 1: true

    Stranger 2: the only solution is our trust in the SPY would actually do this

    Stranger 1: it would all hinge on the spy saving the transcript that they have

    Stranger 1: either of us saving the transcript is itself irrelevant as our system does not reveal a stranger 1 or stranger 2

    Stranger 2: i guess

    Stranger 1: at least for the determination of who is stranger 1 and stranger 2

    Stranger 1: as our perspective is you and stranger

    Stranger 1: where the spy or anyone else on the outside would see us as stranger 1 and stranger 2

    Stranger 2: well...

    Stranger 2: what is your name?

    Stranger 1: Frank Rizzo

    Stranger 2: I'm Terry Cheung

    Stranger 1: so now at least we have established outside this system who we are

    Stranger 2: and if the transcript does get somewhere, we have left a mark in history

    Stranger 1: the only remaining question being who is in fact stranger 1 or stranger 2

    Stranger 1: and now that i think about it

    Stranger 2: for now, we are limited to blind gambling

    Stranger 1
    : if we were both to have answered the original question from the point of view of being stranger 1 then either way at least one of us is guaranteed to be correct in answering the question as stranger 1

    Stranger 2: ha

    Stranger 2: before any of us disconnect, we should give this problem a name

    Stranger 1: well you brought up shrodingers cat before so would calling it an omegle cat be a decent name?

    Stranger 2: ha

    Stranger 2: thats perfect

    Stranger 2: well i guess the quickest way out of this problem, is if one of us take a blind gamble as stranger 2 to disconnect

    Stranger 2: even if we dont see an immediate result (depending IF they spy has done anything) it would be a win win/ win lose situation

    Stranger 1: even if one did disconnect we would then only be idenfied further as the conversational partner

    Stranger 2: so its the person who takes the initiative to disconnect is the one with 50/50 chance of losing

    Stranger 1: which does not allow for a resolution of the dilemma

    Stranger 1: well i would have no problem taking that risk

    Stranger 1: but the way most of my sports betting has gone lately its almost guaranteed that i would be wrong

    Stranger 2: lol neither do I, the outcome is meaningless, its the problem that's interesting

    Stranger 1: true that does seem to be the heart of the matter

    Stranger 2: so do it

    Stranger 1: ok

    Stranger 1: i rather enjoyed this discussioni

    Stranger 2: so did I

    Stranger 1 has disconnected
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    PostSubject: Re: Omegle's Cat: A Two Hour Long Conversation in Spy Mode   Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:47 pm

    How rude Stranger 1!
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